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HAPPY ST. PATTY'S DAY .........
An Irish Blessing
May you be poor in misfortune, rich in blessings, slow to make enemies, quick to make friends, but rich or poor, quick or slow, may you know nothing but happiness from this day forward.
and thanks to the message board so many have not only found old friends, but have made new...
Back in the early 70s a bunch of us hung at the old jefferies school grounds...what a motley crew we had back then. there was the cocchi brothers, bobby shaw, pete zlupko, eski, mole, monk , droopy webster, twiggy, bill deghan and mario. we had the best of times then, does anyone see any of these guys? be good to see them again.
PamRHS
No I'm not Barbara's brother, I'm her cousin her brother is Joe Vaul. By the way Barbara passed away a couple of years ago sorry to say.
To Just Wondering
When you posted about Josephs Tackle Shop you brought back some pleasant memories of my brother and our youth so,Thank You.I have been hoping to see some old names posted from that era and area. GP
U. W.
Does Steve have a sister nicknamed Penny?
Pasqual DeJohn's sisters are Antionette, (Toni, married to Tony Iacona, former principal or superintendent (not sure which) of the Chester Schools,) and Lucille, aka Chickie. I believe there may have been a younger sister but can't recall her name. They are cousins to Julie, Dux and Leo DeJohn.
To GP You are 100% correct. They are the Josephs I was thinking about. I couldn't remember the other brothers' names. Thanks for refreshing my memory. I think their Fathers' name was Bill too.
He made beautiful lures.
That was a long time ago but when the name Ron Joseph came up, it brought back some memories.
Thanks again, GP
Sorry, of course, Peticca. Then there's DeMedio. DeProphetis, Constantine, Collachi, Tenuto, Rinaldi, Pelligrino, D'Amato, Mancuso, Arcamone, Barbato, DeFerdinando, Dorazio, Rossi, Russo, Teti,
Trying to find these folks for a St. Michael's reunion. Please contact me if you know their whereabouts. Thank you so much.
Peggy BODEN
Eileen CARPENTER
Patricia HEFTON
Joan KLINGER
Elizabeth GLEWWE
Frances PAZNOKITIS
Joyce SCHULBERGER
Betty TRAINOR
Margaret TYRELL
The last sentence should have read there would be "no question" - sorry. Hate it when that happens - but it does, all too frequently.
To Just Wondering
I remember the Ron Joseph you speak of from the old Penn Project.He did have an older brother I think named Robert.He also had a younger brother named Billy.His dad had a tackle shop on 3rd st as you stated.My late brother Jim spent many hours at the shop learning to tie flies under Mr Josephs watchful eye.That goes back at least 55 years.I remember when Ron and the rest of us as kids were playing some game and Ron came running around a corner and ran into Gerald Gilbert who was coming around from the other direction and they both had to go get their head stitched up. I don't believe he is the dejay talked about here though.
This board is getting more famouser and more famouser every day. Ain't life grand?
I just happened to remember something humorous that took place a year or so ago. I work in a law office and of course, everyone is expected to have word knowledge and spell things correctly - even if you're not sure of the correct spelling or proper name of a person or business establishment, school, etc., common sense should lead you in the right direction. Well, I was looking over a legal document that one of the women in the office typed. The plaintiff in the case was from Philadelphia and the local school she attended was typed as "Little Flour". After laughing, I debatted whether or not to change the spelling to Flower. I really liked the woman who typed that and not wanting to embarrass her and feeling confident she would catch the mistake, I just let it go. But I also felt that would give the attorneys one more thing to argue about, because how can any school be named "Little Flour"? So, naturally, the plaintiff again, was "lying". Our lawyer happened to have the Irish name of "Ryan" and was possibly Catholic. So, he could (or probably would) say it was named for a baker so good that he was elevated to sainthood because of the miraculous rolls he made for the local hoagies. Surely, then, there would be question, the plaintiff was telling the truth.
Happy St. Paddy's Day - St. Little Flour!
5 Guys Named Moe Get Out of Here & Get Me Some Money Too Is You Is Or Is You Ain't My Baby
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2-just wondering:
while at the airport heard a DJ called RJ on FM 92.1.listened as long as I could the adv. for the program said weekends from 7PM sounded older, but one phrase that the person said did sound like the young RJ for a moment. Maybe the same one..
beth, i was referring to both, carl's and pete's. i use to hang around with carl jr. in the late sixties and early seventies. i use to work with pete jr. also knew the parent's well.
jack.
pam, alice said hi! i will have to e-mail my sister and tell her..she has been on this sight before.
jack.
I can't beleive of all those italian names there wasn't a Peticca.I'm sure everyone knew Hank and Charlie
Pam: I think you meant to respond to me about Alice. I know this board tends to blend together. So many questions so little time.LOL Anyway, yes she is married to Jack.
Here's a coincidence for you. Alice and I have known each other forever, but our parents had never met. When my mother had past away some 13 years ago (she was sick for awhile) Alice came to her funeral. Well by the grave side Alice was crying her eyes out. I turned around and hugged her and said honey it's ok (we were kind of prepared even though it still hurt) and she said no it's not that and she pointed to the grave stone right next to us and her father's name was on it. As big as Chester Rural is and our parents are from opposite ends of the city they are buried next to each other. Now our mothers and fathers are next to each other. Alices mom use to say he better not be messing with your mother. I wonder if he got the third degree when she arrived. One other thing both fathers were life time members of a fire company (Goodwill & Eddystone). I guess firemen really do stick together.
hey everyone, good to here hiball is still with us. pam, wendy sounds familiar but can't place her.mrs myers taught 3rd. john vierra's beer outlet was at 10th and potter.hiball at 10th and upland when i was growing up.
Fabulous how so many names are remembered after all these years. THAT'S what MAKES OLDCHESTERPA the best Maybe Philadelphia Magazine should have a "BEST OF" for this type of page. JOHN'S OLDCHESTRPA would then wear the banner #1
By supporting Johns emporium we can keep this web site going. John, how about a T shirt.. www.oldchesterpa.com...Or a terry beach towel..giant sized of course. With a pix and the call letters to get online. or filling a OldchesterPA mug with penny candy or Jelly Beans what a great Easter Cup for someone special.
Sorry John, just cannot get the marketing out of me even if its not for myself...
Thanks Pat,
You mentioned a lot of others that I couldn't think of as I was posting early this morning.
Dave-- I went to school with Alice for years. Wegraduated together. Isn't she married to Jack K. Jack-- Get your sister on here!
I remember Pie from around 70 , he went out with Mary Christie.
Dave-- Yes, Julian is Dave's cousin, haven't seen him in years.Do you remember Wendy Dower? She lives down here in De. also. The Gills lived on the corner on the 1000 block of Elsinore. Frank Vaul-- are you Barbara's brother?
And then there were others around the city: Anemone, Antonelli, Biordi, Buccella, Carlone, Caruso, Coiro, Catone, Chiaravalloti, Corradetti, Cresta, DaVinci, DeCostanza, DeVito, DiMaio, DiOrio, Donofrio, Faverio, Ferrone, Ficca, Filiaggi, Filippone, Lucchesi, Marcello, Mercadante, Merlino, Montisano, Mirasola, Mignogna, Masticola, Perpetua, Petrillo, Papi, Rossi, Ruffini, Sordi, Totino, Troffo, Trosino, etc.
2 Hungrey: Hardees at 22nd & Upland road - The house behind it was the one we spoke of earlier as a semi-prefab by CHS students. Could not remember the exact name of streets. Thought that was 24th St. Thought it was a Hardees but has changed several times since 1950's that I was not sure of the original fast food operation.
yeah,gigi and pie, brothers from chester, i remember them. think gigi runs his dads body shop in twin oaks. his dad died several years ago and now the boy runs it. someone said that pie was dead.dont know.
Speaking about diners, I spoke with my Dad a few nights ago and he said there is a diner near Crozer now that served great food. Lots of food for a reasonable price. Can't remember tha name of the new place though.
Does anyone remember any of the Pierces from the Brookhaven/Chester area? Lew Pierce was an electrician and his son (also Lewis) was also an electrician. Lew senior is dead since 1969 but the son is still alive.
Sure i remember Michael and Stephen Cameron from McDowell Avenue, there Mother was the late Delores DeTulleo....
2 Just Wondering:
RJ - radio music personality on WEEZ early 60's. At that time he lived in Springfield behind the Lambs Tavern somewhere. I may be wrong but I think he used his First and middle name as his radio signature. As far as his Dad owning a Fish and Tackle store that I don't know.
Piasano: Remember Steve Coletta - I think Steve was in the CHS band. Pasqual (sp?) Dejohn, his sisters have been mentioned on the board several times, these postings are in the archive section of JOHN's message board. Ruffini, Quattra, Zizza, Farrara. Santucci,Boscolla, Stanley Tussey,(Tucci) -Slicky how are yea.
whats all the hub-bub about the gill family? does anone remember their cousins from mcdowell st, gigi and steve cameron?
Bill T: You are correct about the other corner at 9th and Morton Ave. It was a Drug Store and was either Carrolls or McCarrolls. It was owned by an older widow. A young guy from Sun Village by the name of Carl used to help her out. If I recall properly he worked for Nucar Carriers as a driver. That would have been in the late 1940's.
Some one else commented about Vernies Shoe repair. I used to hang out at the Root Beer Stand, one of the other guys that hung out there took a pair of shoes to Vernies for repair. The owner of Vernies looked at the kid, then asked if he hung out at the Root Beer Stand and the kid said "yes", Vernie said "take your shoes somewhere else and don't come back".
Bud - Yuma, AZ
To:Karen Wilson Ragni Mr & Mrs Howlett lived directly across the alley from my Grandmom and next door to me when we moved to the apt. between them and my aunt on the end of the street. I remember when the old brown wood garage of Mr. Howlett's fell down. I always thought there must be some kind of treasures in the old thing with no roof. The house was empty for a very long time but I kept thinking someone was looking out the side window thru the sheer white curtains. The black fence was replaced by a silver chain link one by later residents. I did go to school with Debi and had no idea she was related to the Howletts. I saw her postings on the board. Yes I will admit that is my Uncle Kevin known as Ginker by many and he hasn't much changed-i mean never grew up. Can you beleive he is a grandfather- not that he acts remotely like he is that old? Yes, of twin boys. They are beautiful babies and will be one this year. Mrs.McGinn on Culhane st was my Aunt "Pat" (Helen). Her son and his family that lived up the street moved to NJ.
How about some good old Italian names from Chester's Little Italy?
Fusco, DeMeglio, Marusco, Pileggi, DeFuria, Marino, Mattero, Carletti, DiNicola, Sanbe, Calderone, Zaffiri, LaSpada, Moretti, Ciliberti, Marrone, Iacono, Iacona, Jacona, Stackeni, Chivolotti, Spaccarelli, Dilucidio, Mazza, Ieradi, Walio, Albertini, Ciprano, Crispino, Summa, Cocchi, Bruno, Lombardo, Meli, Buemi, Zappala, Agostinelli, Tavani, DeJohn, DeSanctis, Pierdemenico, Guardiello, Restaneo, Zangari, Ippoliti, Giampalmi, Emmi, Georgini, DeMarco, Grieco, Buono, Ferriola, Scattolini, Tassoni, Trasatti, Borregini, Borgese, Bocella, Bonaquisti, Mucella, Coletta, Passaro, Calvarese, DiSalvatore, Pace, Balestieri, Oronzio, Pisano, just to mention a few!
To U. W.
Is the Ron Joseph you mentioned from the old William Penn Project? Did he have a brother? Did his father have a Fish & Tackle Shop on Third Street? (Sold all kinds of fishing equipment)
Noticed Diners have made a comeback. Not the old fashion buildings but existing ex-eateries.
Howard Johnsons on 12th & Edgmont is now the Edgmont Diner.
The old Hardees at 22nd & Upland road is now the Upland Diner.
Wojies's on Bridgewater road is The Bridgewater Diner.
The Philly Diner on the Industrial Highway (rte 291) replaced Shoney's.
Bridgewater Inn is on Bridgewater Road in the Shopping Center going into Toby Farms. Wojie's just sold out, now it's The Bridgewater Diner.
The old road by the incinerator goes from Chester Township (Feltonville) into Upland.
In reference to the Madrid Inn, was that also at one time called the Pink Poodle?
Tooter was in my class. I believe her first name is Mary. The last name was either Ditullio or Tullio. Can't remember exactly.
To Beth B. My grandmother Florence Shropshire Howlett lived on W. 10th St.right behind your familys beer distributor...I also know your Uncle Kevin (Ginker) fairly well from years ago....I think you also might have went to Ohara with my sister Debi Dugan...my grandmother lived there for many many years...she had three children Robert Howlett, Murrell Howlett and my mother Elva Howlett who graduated CHS"60"...When i was in rez in 76 we rode bikes across the bridge and on Incinerator Rd as we called to the Pusey House...I also lived next to Mrs.McGinn on Culhane st. with my husband,Chris for many years she was a very sweet lady.
To Beth B. My grandmother Florence Shropshire Howlett lived on W. 10th St.right behind your familys beer distributor...I also know your Uncle Kevin (Ginker) fairly well from years ago....I think you also might have went to Ohara with my sister Debi Dugan...my grandmother lived there for many many years...she had three children Robert Howlett, Murrell Howlett and my mother Elva Howlett who graduated CHS"60"...When i was in rez in 76 we rode bikes across the bridge and on Incinerator Rd as we called to the Pusey House...I also lived next to Mrs.McGinn on Culhane st. with my husband,Chris for many years she was a very sweet lady.
To Pam that is the same Kitty,Clayton died 3 or 4 years ago and kitty just sold the house on 15th st. about 2 years ago, she lives in Brookhaven with her daughter Patricia now.
And speaking of W. 15th St isn't there any one out there that lived on 15th st by Crozier Hospital or 21st St by the Hospital. I am an only child but I know I grow with some kids in the that area.
Well, tomorrow is the "Ides of March". One day in history that lives in infamy and is never celebrated. Let's keep up the tradition, which goes back centuries before the name "Chester" was a city in England or a word, that mattered.
Jukebox - Improve your english...
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"Tooter", that name rings a Sun Village bell in my memory. What was her maiden name? On what block of Elsinore did she live? Just trying to place names & people.
Someone posted in the archives that this Gill that was arrested was not the son of Tim & Tooter
oops forgot to say that was me responding to Jack
Jack wrote: also knew the mcginns and stepkyes and carl delorio. pete blandiak now lives in eddystone, know him well also. jack the slow reader!
Jack were you referring to Carl the beer man or his son and Pete the father that worked at BP or his son? I knew them all growing up.
always late on here. by the time i read through most postings are answered.(not complaining just stating) i remember the madrid in aston and than it changed so many times after that and is now harry kats pub. also tom, i was going to say that i thought jane was john,s cousin. also knew the mcginns and stepkyes and carl delorio. pete blandiak now lives in eddystone, know him well also. jack the slow reader!
charlie......a crime it was my angry friend, but he will pay and is paying for what wrong was done....i think i know you charlie, sad but true...you drink at the bridgewater inn,dont ya? orange soap?
To Chester Native- Have any orange soap at home. Bottom Line Is that he he did plead guilty to the charges, I think if it was your daughter you would call it more than a mistake it was a CRIME. And a crime hopefully he does'nt make again, but anyone will tell you this type of criminal is the hardest to rehablitate and almost always repeat this type of crime. When these prople are caught the first thing people say is he was such a nice boy- Jeffrey Dalmer was also a nice boy from his neighbors growing up.
To Chester Native,
I could not have said it better regarding "Charlie's" statement regarding Buckey Gill, with Easter so close you would think people would reframe from being so nasty and judgemental....OWell, it takes all kinds...have a great Day!
for charlie...i have know the Gill Family my entire life, went to grade school and st james with bucky and think of him as a friend still. one mistake on his part does not deserve a stranger(charlie) to call such names as pervert. never did an immoral thing in your life charlie? back off with the judgement my friend, have a soft heart and take personel stock and stop throwing bricks
Seen the posting about Timmy Gill, hard to believe his son turned out to be a pervert, understand he's still in Del. County prison, when released must register as a pradator under Megans Law. I believe the son is either Gooch or Buckey. We trust or teacher to teach our children not to make hay with them. And Timmy Gill was a police Inspector and was one hell of a displinary should should have done the same at home.
Pam At 9th and Morton Ave. Hot dog stand next to that(toward the river), was Billy Richies which later became ReDavids.The other bar was the Mal-Tone (played Country Music.) Gas station. And a big red brick building that might have been a drug store(not to sure of this).
Thank you, whoever you are, The Madrid is it, now I can call my ex who lives in Eddystone who could not remember either...Another problem solved...
Wasn't the bar in Aston during the 70's called the Madrid Inn....
Geo. K. a blast from the past...remember RJ (Ron Joseph) Just spell the name right Joseph....Thanks for the memory..Nice guy did me a major favor once while broadcasting. May you live to be 100 RJ.
Harvey...WOW that was great, I love Seegar & that song...Thanks, if you didn't post it, was still great...
Turn the Page - fiction
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I thought the Bridgewater Inn was in the shopping center that was actually on Bridgewater Rd at the main entrance to the development. There is a restaurant across the way now called Wolfie's I beleive. The one on concord was the alibi and it was painted white with black trim.
John, do you ever hear from Jane(Sasha)??? So her son's with Stallone are your cousins, do you know them??? the one son who acts looks just like Jane but with dark hair, how interesting!!!1And TOM, Bobby was a lady's man & was a hottie back then...
Tom, where the Alibi is or was is the place we all use to go to hear the Bobby c Trio was it not called The Bridgewater before (70's)???
Floyd: I do remember Frazier coming into the Meeting House Tavern in Twin Oaks a few times with friends on a Sunday night when they have Karaoke. And yes I can sing a mean version of "Tie the Yellow Ribbon" NOT :) My favorite was "Turn The Page" and some stuff from Springsteen or In The Ghetto by Elvis, but I haven't been to one of those places in a year and a half. It is a Sunday night Monday morning thing. Bobby C use to go out with my sister a long time ago, but then again I heard that he was a ladies man anyway. I don't think Kate was referring to the Bridgewater wasn't that in Toby Farms? She's referring to Concord Rd and what was the Alibi, I think.
This is a great page. So many cool memories of a great lifestyle. Now is it bygone? I don't think I enjoyed it fully when I lived there. Romanticizing it now? I dunno.
I left the Delaware County in '76 after High School (dull). Holy Ghost grammer school rocked. I went east until I got to the end of NJ on LBI and surfed, rocked, partied, and became the next IGGY POP clone. Then I followed punk rock around Boston in '77. Great era.
Do I think fondly of those years? Yeah, I was gloriously mis-spending my youth, but there was some times. I am 1.000's of miles away now, and this page brings it back. To even here RJ on WEEZ again would be a trip. And the Wee Willie Webber Show on WPHL 17.
Those were the good years for me in Chester until '76. That's all I remember. And thanks to all involved with this web page.
Kate&Tom Jane is not my sister she is my couson.She has three brothers joe,john and kenny.I Have two older sisters connie and linda. John is a couple years older than me.He has a son named john and so do I.
Floyd, thanks, was racking my brain & could not think of the Bridgewater Inn, yes BoBBy C Trio put on some great shows, his brother Billy was in the group & they also hail from McCaffrey , they did a mean redition of Jethro Tull called "Locomotive Breath" Your right I saw Joe Frazier come in another Night club, I think in Essington & he signed autographs and was really apprecitive of his fans...Lots of good memories from the 70's...
Hi Everyone - Gotta make this brief - but I always say that, don't I? :-) Duffy (ironically this was also the first name I had to write the Times Bar Hopping column under. New editor Andy Reynolds finally gave my real name back to me) wrote - "Floyd: HiBall's was on the corner of 10th and Potter and then moved to 10th and Upland. HiBall is still around and kicking." WHOA, great to hear that! I remember going there to Hiball's with my parents when just a child. They were friends of his and shopped there a lot. Glad to know that he's still with us. Thanks for the info, Duffy! Re Bobby C - Yes, knew him also and he is still performing from what I understand. He used to put on some great shows at the Bridgewater in Aston some years ago. He was pretty heavily into karate at one point and knew my friend Grey Givin, who ran the American Karate Studio in Holmes, on Morton Ave. Gray lives in Georgia now. Re Joe Frazier - One of Joe's attorneys is in Media and he is a good friend of mine, and I met Joe through this gentleman. About five years ago, another mutual friend was running for State Representative on the Republican ticket (what else? :-) and I was helping to work on his campaign. The candidate was planning a large fund raiser at the Chadds Ford Ramada Inn and he wanted some first-class karaoke singers to appear at the event so for about three different nights, he, Joe and I would travel around to all of the karaoke bars in the area looking for new talent. Joe would cause a sensation just by walking in the bar as people would flock around him and he was always polite and friendly to everyone. He was just as nice a guy, privately, when he was "out of the spotlight" too. He would almost always do a number onstage, which was cool - but I was "karaoke-ed" out by the time this mission was over. To this day, I pretty much avoid karaoke bars. Listening to screeching, off-key renditions of "Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Old Oak Tree" night after night can knock you over faster than Joe's legendary left hook. We did find some good singers in some of these places, however, and got them to come (everything was taken care of :-) to the fund-raiser. Harry Kalas and his wife were there also as well as the then-reigning Miss Pennsylvania. Our candidate lost, sadly, but it was an interesting time and a LOT of fun. Not exactly a Chester memory, I know, but thought ya'll might find it interesting. More later.
Thanks BETH, Neither one of those names ring a bell but I am talking about 73 -75, I haven't been on that road for at least that many years but you are right about the location, maybe somone elso remember's some other names...ya, was a scarey road but we all used it for a short cut to Brookhaven....have to get my 64 yearbook out and see if i remember your relatives..
That would be Concord Rd That goes from Chester Twp thru Aston to 5 points and continues to rt 1. I think I know which bar you mean even though I was never in it. It was just down from Sun Valley and next to the gas station. It was called Your Alibi for a long while and Rick's Sheds are now on the other side. I also remember Incinerator RD with the scarey bridge and it was the shortcut to Toby Farms.
TOM, are you & Pam talking about The same Jane Czack that married Stallone & helped him write Rocky??????????A lot of the girls she graduated with were really impressed!!!!!!!!!She did graduate '65 even tho we all read an article she did in Redbook mag. some years ago and our age was 5 years younger, gotta love that.......anyway what is the name of the road near where the old incinerator rd. use to be, remember that sharp turn under the bridge?? the road i'm thinking of goes past the firehouse in Felton & goes into Aston, there was a bar on the right that changed hands many times & the guys I kew all hung there & Bobby C was playing one night & in walked Joe Frazier, the Boxer, he got on stage & did a few numbers with Bobby, was anyone else there that night from this site? Rocky reminded me of this because of Jane....
Floyd: HiBall's was on the corner of 10th and Potter and then moved to 10th and Upland. HiBall is still around and kicking.
HEY 7 TH WARDER WHERE, WHEN ?
Lou
You are so right. Hope more people from "our" neighborhood, which you described, will find this site and start posting on it so we can read about the old days.
I am surpised that the only ones posting so far are prodominately from the East and West ends of the city.
Come on 7th ward people. Tell your friends about oldchesterpa.com Would like to know about our old friends and neighbors and what went on in that part of the city.
Tom-- I talk to John almost everyday. He works @ Chrysler with Dave. I'll tell him to get on. His sister is the one who told us about this site. I plan to try your suggestion with the computer. Dave-- What grade did she teach? The name sounds familiar. I also had Mrs. Caldwell & Mrs. Wetherill. Remember Mr. Lowe the Gym teacher?
HI ALL GREAT SITE ! A THOUGHT : I SEE A LOT OF POSTS FROM THE EAST SIDE AND WEST END OF CHESTER. I WAS FROM, I GUESS YOU WOULD CALL THE CENTER OF CHESTER. LETS SAY FROM DOWNTOWN CHESTER TO CENTRAL AVE. LLOYD, PENNELL, KERLIN, LAMOKIN, BROOMALL, PARKER ETC, FROM 9TH ST TO THE RIVER. COLOMBUS CENTER, ST ANTHONYS, FRANLIN SCHOOL, LLOYD FIELD, NIGHT OWLS, APPOLLO MOVIES, MADELYNS MARKET, BALESTERI'S MARKET, LETO'S, POST 17, DEMEGLIOS RESTRURANT. EZ 'S ON THIRD AND LLOYD,MAILMANS STORE, IMMACULATE HEART PARISH. JUST THOUGHT I WOULD THROW THIS OUT.
hey pam, i remember redavids and they had the best pizza. how about mrs myers at jeffries school she gave us fudge and the stick pretzels. chester east looked huge when we were kids and now it looks like a backyard. is your husband related to jules from the firehouse(moyamensing)? i can't remember, see ya.
Pam: I haven't had a lot of time on my hands to look into the name connection thing. Been some problems at home with my 17yo that kind of had me tied up. I saw John Czack sign in do you remember him? Where is he? Do you remember the Reeves from Eddystone? They are like family to me, also. I was chatting with Ed B before our class reunion he told me that he got your son into Williamson. Good deal. Ed's a good guy his grandmother used to live next to me. Glad to see you got the modem issue resolved. I used to have my own computer repair store called "PC Clone Doctors" in Prospect Park but anyhow if your modem locks up try this. Click on My Computer then control panel, then modems, then diagnostics, look for the com port where the modem is listed, click on that then click on more info and it will tell you if the computer actually sees the modem.
pam..... The Shoemaker on Morton was called Vernies..Before your time there was a Drug Store on 9th and Morton Ave,(your Grandmother would remember) ReDavid's was on Morton Avenue used to be Billy Richies years ago ....
Betty- Last week you asked me if my grandmom remembered Kitty. I talked to her this am & she does. She was married to Clayton & had a house on 15th St.. Same Kitty? Tom- Did you start the connection? I would like to share a Christmas memory of my grandmom's who was a young girl during the Depression with 10 brothers & sisters. One year they had no money to buy a tree so her father made one out of an umbrella & angel hair & the few balls they had. She said it was beautiful & children came from all over the neighborhood to see it. She says that the did not usually go in firends' houses back then. I think people then appreciated things more, they were thankful to have a pair of shoes! Incidently, that large family all lived in a row house on Patterson St. Hope you enjoyed!
Glad to see all the bickering is over! Does anyone remember Mrs. Sarah Brown Baron who taught 5th grade @ Jeffries Elementary? Floyd, I do remember The Melrose in Sun Village, a bunch of us kids would pack into a booth & get 2 orders of fries! That makes me remember someone mentioning the Gills from Elsinore St., my grandmom saw Timmy a few weeks ago @ Crozier & he told her that Tooter was very ill. Anyone remember Chester East Little League? They had so much penny candy!! I always swore my boys would play ball but they both ended up playing soccer & lacrosse. My younger one now plays for Williamson Tech in Media. Any other soccer parents out there? Gotta do my housework since I'm off today. Check back later for more memories.
Beth: I know most of the relatives you mentioned. Gerry Sr., Gerry Jr., Tom, They all use to come down the Boat Club and I hung around with Tommy once in awhile. Jimmy, Jimmy, Stevie, Tom, John, Ginker, they are friends of mine. I just saw Stevie and Jimmy down at Grotto's pizza down the Delaware shore 2 summer's ago. I also used to hang around with Bill Waldron Jr. and have even been down to Jimmy's, Stevie's and Bill Sr. place down at Pot nets a few times for them wonderful crabs.
Kate: John Cz is Jane brother he is Jolly and my age.
John Czack how are you remember me. Tom B from the village.
Wasn't there a bar on 9th & Morton called Redavids'in the 60's? There was a Sinclair gas station, another bar and I can't remember what was on the other corner. I also remember a shoe repair shop, I think Pellegrinos? It was by the Mac movie. Anyone remember staying at the movies all day? 2 movies & cartoons! My husband once stayed so longg it was dark outside & his parents had to go & get him, didn't he get in trouble!
Hello Beth ,
I was just reading one of your postings. I am from Trainer and you mentioned the name Gus Bucella is that the Gus who lives down by the river in Marcus Hook. If so he is my grandmother-in-law's brother. I was just wondering.
Take care
p.s. alot of the places you mentioned bring back alot of memories I went to St. Hedwigs and hung out in Chester.
My pc is not picking up when there is a cd in the modem. As I am computer challenged, can anyone help!?
John J. McClure residence
Howard H. Houston residence
Photo of the Chester Theatre
Pidipat and Tom, my Aunt Carma and Uncle Jack Mullen lived on Clover Ln but on the part between 9th and 10th. My cousins, Babe and Gerald Stepkke lived on the block between 10th and 12th and so did my friends the Balandiaks. Mike Mortimer was a friend of the family that lived in Trainer while I was growing up and one of his 2 daughters was in O'Hara at the same time as me. (ND closed just before I left grade school)
Just a few door up from Millers bar was Patros bar, 900 blk. Morton Ave.,lots of thirsty people in Chester those days.
Sorry - it was HOLLOWAY'S gift shop - not Halloway's - was remembering it as I pronounced it - and spelled it wrong tonight - but would really like to hear from anyone who may know something about those old bank vaults under the street there.
Hi Everyone - to "Chester native" - you wrote "to floyd: millers bar was located on the north corner of the intersection of 9th and morton ave." OK - THAT'S what I thought -THAT'S where I remember it - will take a "sentimental journey" down there this weekend anyway and report back to the group on what I find. You also wrote - "i remember the owner of the bar , his name was bill miller and was good friends of my family...he died sometime in the late 70s or early 80s." You certainly nudged my memory on the name - yes, it WAS Bill Miller. I had forgotten. My family knew him and I MAY have met him as a child. Thank you, "chester native". Now speaking of businesses - anyone here remember Highball's corner grocery store, around Kerlin St. or Crosby? Near 8th, I think? Tall, bald-headed fellow owned it. His nickname was, indeed, "Highball". Or Henry Shapiro's wallpaper store in downtown Chester – Welsh St. I think - his long-time employee "Tang"? Or Henry's son Lee, I think his name was, who later became a lawyer - moved to Kansas City I think? Or Brownie's barber shop on Morton Ave.? His name was Clifford Brown, I recall. Dad took me there for my first haircuts until I was about 6-7, something like that. Brownie died and then we went to Andy Bufano's shop, on Providence Ave. Andy had a laryngectomy and spoke by swallowing air. Medium height, slim, he had white, wavy hair, somewhat prominent nose. Dad also told me that Andy was one of the best piano teachers in the area once. I can still remember his place, almost in detail. As I mentioned once before here, I was either blessed - or cursed - with what is called a "photographic memory" - my brain sometimes seems to take "snapshots" of things and people. I sure as hell don't ask it to - in fact, we're not even on speaking terms right now ;-) Anyway – anyone remember Irene's hoagie shop? Same area, around Rose, Kerlin et. al. I can still see it on the corner there but I guess my old brain lost the address - put it in a different photo album someplace :-) or Halloway's Gift Shop, on the corner, just across from St. Michael's in downtown Chester? My Mom used to work there, for Mr. and Mrs. Halloway. This is circa 1965. I think it's an empty space now. It was also the site of a bank many years ago, long before Halloway’s Gift Shop, and later, during the “hippie” era in the early 1970’s, it was the site of a “head shop” called Headquarters. I bought a few metal pipes there before I got legit and switched to Peterson’s briar pipes and Paladin Black Cherry tobacco. ;-) Now, there ARE old bank vaults under the street, right there on the corner, under where Halloway's used to be. Trust me on this. I know there are vaults under the street as I was down there several times. In the back of Halloway’s was a door, to the right, behind the counter space, as you walked into the store. The merchandise was out front, as you walked in, then the counter against the wall, in the direction of Burman’s newsstand - only employees were allowed behind the counter – well, only employees and their nosy sons :-) - and this door led into the basement – bathrooms, etc. – and then ANOTHER door which led down to the vaults. Mom would let me go down to the vaults and root around there with the typical motherly – “Don’t get hurt down there! Call me if you need me!” type warning. God Bless her soul. Anyway - I recall there were only just tons of old papers and ledger books and file cabinets there, nothing very interesting to me at the time, and it was a large, dark space but still, as I recall, it had the electricity hooked up – no doubt from the store upstairs somehow – I know nothing about electricity or wiring except not to stick your finger into a light socket while standing in a bathtub. But I was not prowling around in there with a candle - and yes, it was “hooked up” to electrical wiring somehow. The overhead light bulbs went on when I flicked a switch someplace. I have no idea how. The vault must have been somehow wired to the store upstairs. But it was a large area where you could easily walk around and did not have to stoop down. It was also as dusty as Hell but fun for a snoopy kid to prowl around in. Halloway’s and Headquarters are certainly gone – but the vaults must still be there, under the street and long forgotten. Buildings are easy to raze, but vaults are a different story, unless they were filled in long ago. I just don’t know. If anyone can add to this little mystery, please do so. Anyway, best to all here and more later
TO BETH: Reading your story now tells me what happened to the children and grandchildren of some of the friends I grew up with in BV, particularly the McGinns. I think Butch McGinn was probably a cousin of yours, and Bill and Jack Waldron I also grew up with. All three were most "marvelous fellows". Butch and Jack are now gone, but Bill is still around. If you should see him again, please tell him Pat McFadden sends her fondest and very best regards. I think Bill would have liked nothing better than to see me and Butch spend our lives together. Bill was always the greatest and he and Butch were lifelong, close friends. I think they would have done anything for each other.
Believe me, it seems like only yesterday when me and my friends were even younger (much younger) than you. I hope this board is still around when you're my age (70) and you have the opportunity to read the postings of the children/grandchildren of your friends. It's wonderful to be able to do that.
Kate, Just noticed the year you graduated from Notre Dame. I think my mom, June and her twin sister, Joyce, graduated in 1964. They were friends with Betsy Walker from w 9th street. My mom and Betsy went to the St James Dog's on the Dunes event and said she saw lots of relatives and others she knows.
Yes, I am related to John Mcginn and the many Jim McGinns. I don't know if the Highland Cafe was called that before my relatives bought it but I do know of it. My grandfather was Jim (Bus) Mcginn that had the beer distributor between W. 10th and 11th in the alley. My grandmother, Millie still owns it and my Uncle Jimmy and Aunt Sandy run it. They still live there. My Uncle Stevie moved to a trailer at the beach in Delaware and when I visited him he took me by boat to Bill Waldron's trailer. I think S'Bandi's burned down but I am not sure. I do remember McCloskey's being in the middle of the shopping center in the next block and that it had an entrance in the front and back. From what I heard my mom met my dad at Rube's when she was there with her sister, Babsie. When i started bartending at Rube's the place was nothing like the stories I had heard growing up, and they were very colorful ones including how it was a biker bar for awhile. We had a pool table in the back room but my game was shuffleboard which I think is really shufflebowling. I worked at Dominic's Other Place in Trainer on Tuesdays which was league nite but when I stopped I started playing for the Village Cafe (aka Rube's)and traveled the Marcus Hook league circuit and was able to visit many of the bars that I had heard of in the alley at the beer distributor growing up following the drivers Carl Delurio and my Uncle Kevin around. Bonner's (over the bridge) was in the league too. My grandfather's brother, Tom McGinn was well known in the area, too. He lived over in Highland Gardens but moved to Jersey. I don't believe I am related to the Bucella that was mentioned from Smedley. There were Borsellos in the West End. My dad's family was mostly in Marcus Hook and the East End. My Grandpop Gus Bucella drove a beer truck for JJ Kelly's. I also remember going to wedding receptions at the West End Boat Club. As for Trainer Rocks, I remember when I was in Rez, hearing stories about the older kids having parties up there at night when I had to be in.
Beth, I am a older than you and it sure surprised me that anyone went to Trainer rocks after the 60's. we use to take a lunch and sit down thier for the afternoon, we were about 12...I also live at the end of a dirt road but it's mostly sand because we are 5 minutes from the ocean, which I love....I also tell my husband "you can take the girl out of Chester but you can't take Chester out of the girl" that has been said by many & I don't claim it for my own....Peace out.
to floyd: millers bar was located on the north corner of the intersection of 9th and morton ave. i remember the owner of the bar , his name was bill miller and was good friends of my family...he died sometime in the late 70s or early 80s.
John Czack, you didn't leave a message but I must know are you related to Jane?
Tom - regarding the elderly lady who lived on the corner (would have been maybe NE corner) of Clover Lane and 12 Street, I don't know what year you are referring to, but when I was there ('42 to '50), there was a dear old lady who lived in that house. I lived at 1209 Clover Lane. Her house was adorable from the outside - I never knew anyone who visited her inside and I never heard her speak. She is another neighbor of mine in BV that I have thought of. Hardly ever saw her and she was a true recluse. At least you have given me her name; I don't think anyone ever knew her name.
Right next door to this lady, north of her, there was a family with two little boys. I remember them because I visited them a few times and played games with the boys (they were maybe 5-6 yrs old). I loved little kids and they were sweet boys. Bradley could have been their name - because I haven't the slightest idea of what their names were.
Hi Everyone – To Tom – yes, we probably did shoot pool together at one time as I knew ALL those places – Rube’s (Village Café); Sbandi's; Highland Tavern; Bonner's in Highland Gardens; Castle (or Castel – whatever) Franci's, the after hours bar owned by Mort on Morton Ave. in Sun Village; Hunt's Annex across from Crozer – now in Woodlyn; LLoyd Athletic Club (Lloyd AC) under the firehouse; Columba's Hotel in Eddystone AKA Spada's later on. Yes, sir - “Memories of a Misspent Youth” – name of a novel by Vance Packard, which somehow turned into my own life - :-) Oh, well. I still talk to Kathy and Vince at Hunt’s Annex – both great people and Kathy is even MORE beautiful than ever before, if that’s possible - and Art McCloskey got me a membership at the LLoyd AC under the firehouse. He and his family also owned the old Imperial Bar, just across from Burman’s Newsstand at 7th and Edgmont. About a year ago, I was having drinks with friends at a bar here in Media and who walks in but none other than Art! He still owns the Hilltop Tavern in Chester Heights. We had a great hour or more reminiscing about Chester in the good – or “bad” - old days. Depends on how you look at it. Actually, I liked that time. Will leave most of the names out, but my newer friends in Media raised some eyebrows as they overheard Art and I talking about “Peggy the Blade” and the “Flash Bandit” – yeah, I knew Cliff too, long since reformed and a VERY nice gentleman who was not a hypocrite – he never made any secret about his past and I respected him for this. Later, I got the ‘ole “You KNEW these people?!” questions from my Media friends. Yes, I did know them and I am damned glad of it. Tom, I was never good enough to head a pool team and, frankly, the discipline of being at a certain place at a certain time for a game would have cramped me. I was a pretty good pool shooter but mostly I played for fun, as the pure beauty of the game intrigued me. Newton’s Third Law of Motion – “For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction” - all right there in front of you, on a slate table, covered with green felt. Fascinating. And the “action” coming from a stick from a rack, which you had to “site” first to make sure it was not bent, even a little. Used to shoot downstairs at the old Royal pool parlor, next to the State Theater, also – that’s where I cut my teeth on the game when I was just a kid. You’d walk downstairs, and past the people and the smoke, and line up for a game. The only time I did anything like “hustling” was when I traveled throughout Texas and New Mexico and pool kept me in beer and hot dogs for dinner. Other than that, I played the game for the sheer fun I found in it. Anyway, you mentioned Lou's Junkyard – was that the one at 2nd and Tilghman? And a fellow named Rossi who worked there? Any relation to Nick Rossi (or Rocci) from Dupont St.? His father was also named Nick – or “Big Nick”, as he was known - a huge, powerful guy whose size scared me when I was a little kid (they were neighbors of ours) but who also was as friendly as they could come. The whole Rossi family were good neighbors on Dupont St. – there was an older sister named Cookie, and a younger sister, Margie. “Young Nick” and I were friends growing up. Saw the posts on here earlier about the coal heaters – Yeah, we had one at 622 Dupont St. also. I used to carry the coal ashes out in those big, bent, gray tubs also, after shoveling them out from the grate. My friend as a kid, “Young” Nick, was damned near as strong as his Dad was and he carried them out with no problem, as they had coal heat there also. We were the same age but I had to drag our tubs out with both hands, like deadweight, until I got strong enough to lift and carry them, by the handles, upright. Last time I saw “Young Nick” was about 20 years ago, at the after-hours club in Highland Gardens. I think Gene Banta owned that one also. It was close to the B&B bar and Bonner’s – anyone here remember the name? Played pool there too – funny story about the night a girl totally slaughtered me on the table, game after game. I was working at Tedeco, a factory in Glenolden, at the time and had brought some friends from there with me, after our nightly visit to the Rendezvous go-go bar on Chester Pike in Crum Lynne – then named the Nitespot as Mickey Drill was no longer the owner – Mike Falcone was the owner then. It later burned down. He also owned Venus Beauty Salon on Chester Pike. Anyway. I heard about it from my friends for the rest of the night – “A GIRL beat you! A GIRL!” It didn’t bother me – my friends from Delco had never seen the female pool players at the bars in Commerce, Texas. I saw those ladies wipe out MANY a big cowboy, who strutted in the bars in their Stetsons, with their $200 pool cues, in those fancy leather-carrying cases. Some of the girls there just picked a cue from the rack, sited it, then sent the cowboys out the door after beating them at every game. But those good ‘ole boys were always polite about it and this I really respected – the ladies whipped their butts and the guys left, quietly hiding their tails between their legs, but the boys would ALWAYS leave with a respectful “Very good game, Ma’am – thank you”. That’s life – you win, you win. You lose, you lose. Just do it all with class and respect. Anyway, that’s another place. But young Nick and I reminisced – I recall he told me his Dad had died – and we exchanged phone numbers, but, as these things go in life, we never saw each other again. He was a good guy and a good friend to me. I really hope he and his family are doing well today. To the anonymous poster about Miller’s Musical Bar – a nice, older gentleman from a western state sent along an email that did nudge my memory a bit. I may have been wrong about JUST the exact location – am not sure, but this weekend, will drive down there again - wearing my bulletproof vest of course - ;-) - just kidding - and find the exact spot for sure, as I do remember just where it was. It was RIGHT on a corner – this I do know. At 9th St. - follow past it, just go straight, then you’re in Eddystone. Anyway, will let y’all know if you want. Gotta run – thanks again for this fantastic page - Webmaster John – you’re the greatest! – And God Bless to everyone.
I was just thinking about when I was young. I had a huge paper route for a kid. About 200 customers combined. I delivered papers for the Daily Times and had a Sunday route for Otti delivering the Inquirer. I delivered to a lot of people in McCaffery and Buckman. I remember a Mrs. Dickerson she was very old, lived on Clover Ln. I don't know why I remember her just I guess it was alway that she use to put my money in an envelope in her mailbox and she always left a note in it to keep the change (.50) which was a pretty big tip for a kid delivering news papers. I had a lot of customers but I don't remember many of thier names, but Mrs. Dickerson I do she was always nice when she did come to the door to pay me, she had an old little black change purse and made sure she always gave me that tip.
Another buddy of mine that disappeared and no one heard from was Jack Bradley, him and his brother Mike lived with his grandmother on the corner house of Clover Ln across from where Goodsie's candy store was right next to the ally that divided McCafferty and Buckman. Any info on this one?
Tom, would love to hear from her, maybe she can use Rita's PC...anyway I know what she did but should not say, Rita can tell you.Peace out
Kate: I just sent Anna's sister Rita that question. Inquirering mind want to know. Anyway, I don't think Anna has a computer.
was me, forgot to sign my name ...Peace
thank you Harvey for putting the website on here for the country songs, and especially Bill Haley. It is a great site of the record lady. so many songs, its great. thanks again, Doris
TOM,I remember most of the names you mentioned b/c some of you guys hung out with my brothers but Mike Mortimer graduated with me from Rez and later married a good friend, Anna, ask Anna if she remembers the time her & I, Mike & Frank skipped school in our Jr. year, rode around & wound up in Beaver Vally, went down there to park and lo & behold a car pulls in behind us & it was a truant officer & Anna & I were in our uniforms & he wanted to know why we weren't in school...we lied but got found out by the school & Mom's & I spent detention days on off days with the nun's, Anna can tell you what she did.....Memories, in the corner of our mind's....Peace out..
Before someone else corrects me, I will correct myself. It was Mr. Phillips who married Miss Dimm at Dewey Mann. He was a shop teacher and she taught Home Ec. I don't know why I was thinking it was Mr.Pichuk. He was also a teacher at Dewey, wasn't he? I just remember that he was cute and we (Midge, Lynn, Sammie and Joan Miller) used to harrass him. He lived on Culhane St. for a while. I think he rented a room there or something. Oh well. To be that 14 again. No thanks.
pidpat..Mornin' Just wanted to thank you for bringing up "Orphan Annie". Now, I have a copy, too. I have a four year old grandaughter, Kiara Rae, who will love this. She lives about three hours away from me but we spend a lot of time on the phone. We call each other and I sing to her or read her a story. Last night, she called to ask me where babies came from. Next time we "talk" I will read her this poem. Thanks again and Thanks to Harvey.
Last sentence.... It meant up and away.
Mike: Probably knew my dad "Totta" he used to go in Rube's and McCloskey's all the time. He worked for the school district on the lunch trucks along with Billy Henderson who was quite a few years younger than he was. He used to do this hand thing when he waved goodbye. He would twist his hand under around and up. I ask him what it meant and he told me it was a jester that airmen in the service used. I meant up and away. He always used it to say goodbye.
To TOM:: Tom, You mentioned a lot of friends that I knew very well, growing up in BV, McC, & HG's. Frank Sbandi was a dear friend of mine, Mike Mortimer was one of my younger custermers when I worked at Rube's. Really nice guy. My brothers and I always spent Saturday afternoons in Rube's when Ray, Rube's step-brother worked. Then I had to work the night shift. Albert Sbandi was pretty young back then. He stopped to see me one year coming back from the Mardi Gras. I sure miss the old neighborhood & the people that lived there. John McGinn & I went all thru Rez & St. James together. I bumped into him about 6 years ago in Ft. Lauderdale, while I was visting Danny Hodgson & Dapper McLaughlin. By the way, Dapper died 2 weeks ago in Florida. Man your sure hit my memory buttons.. Thanks, Mike..
ATTENTION: CHS Class of 1947 CHS Class of 47...Final plans for 55 yr Reunion Dinner Dance are now complete and invitations are being mailed. it will be on Friday, June 7, 2002 at the Concordville Inn (Route 322& Route 1) Cost is $30 per person. Cash Bar 4:00-5:30 PM.. Dinner at 7 PM & Dancing until 9:00 PM. If you have moved in the last 5 years (and do not receive an invitation E-mail me or contact Carold Buonsante Hindsley - 60 Ruby Drive, Claymont,Delaware 17703.. Also check the CHS 47 Class Reunion section on this site.
Catbird that was the 6th guy not catman.
Floyd: I probably shot you pool at one of these places that you mentioned in some of your post. I worked at Sbandi's for about 2 years back in the 80's. I worked there with Marie, Jackie, Jack, John Cunningham, Ginger, Joe Corsey, Albert's father Frank was always nice to me used to call me Tommy Boy. I used to give him rides home once in awhile after he got done his shift. That was after he stopped driving. I shot pool in the Delco league and was always shooting even when I was working if it wasn't that crowded. I was the captain of quite a few pool teams, Sbandi's, John McGinns Highland Tavern, Bonner's, Castle Franci's, Hunt's Annex, LLoyd AC under the firehouse, Columba's, Spada's. I remember one time when I got done work at 2 in the morning 6 of us jumped in Albert's Datsun 280Z and went down to Atlantic City. If you know any of these guys just try to imagine what it looked like Mike Mortimer, Tom Corsey, Joe Corsey, Myself (6 ft), and one of the Rossi boys who work at Lou's Junk yard (Catman or something like that) all like 6 ft tall crammed into a 280Z hatch up legs dangling out the back we got pulled over twice and the cops just laughed thier butts off told us to pull our legs in and close the hatch, if they catch us again they would lock us up. So the rest of the ride there we are crammed in I thought I was going to die. And that was only the ride down. By the time we got there the casinos were closed, so we ended up taking a life boat down to the ocean and going swimming in our clothes. Then we ended up renting a (1) hotel room and slept on the floor until about 7 or 8. Of course we never made it into the casino, we smelled like the ocean and looked worse. The next week I noticed that my pay from the bar was short. When I questioned Albert he "Oh, that's the money you owe me for the room." I was pissed he split the room rate 6 ways and took my cut out of my pay. I don't know if he got any money off of the other guys or not, but I don't think he did.
Betty, sorry for my mistake, you were right "Little Orphan Annie" {lease forgive. Piditpat was wrong, wow a first.
MAN, I JUST READ YOUR LETTER ABOUT MILLERS BAR ON THE CORNER OF 9TH AND MORTON AND I REMEMBER THAT PLACE TOO.....USED TO GO IN THERE WITH MY GRANDMOTHER AND GREAT GRANDFATHER WHEN I WAS A KID...WE LIVED ON 9TH STREET IN THE 60S AND THAT PART OF CHESTER WAS A REALLY NICE PLAACE...WHAT MEMORIES...COOL STORY FLOYD
Tracking Delco's role in the Underground Railroad by Loretta Rodgers
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Hi Everyone - Much more to post but am getting so crunched for time now. To Beth A. Bucella Beal - any relation to Diane Bucella, Smedley 1965? Is S'Bandi's, on the corner, still there? Shot more than a few games of pool in that back room once :-) - knew Rube's across the street very well also - my last visit there was not long before it closed, but I was usually there later than 8 p.m. :-) And also in the bar located in the middle of the little shopping center right next door. Funny, cool, but goofy, story about both those places all on one night that I may share here sometime, from about 15 years ago. IF I get the nerve to tell it on a public forum and IF the statute of limitations on crashed Chester police car doors has expired. Thank GOD the little bar from Rube's Village Cafe was only two quick turns to the right from Rube's parking lot ;-). Hence my very narrow escape to there, as a fight went on in Rube's. Yes, I knew the area well :-) Jeez - WHEW! - moving on. Anyway, you mentioned your Mom's side of the family -McGinn - any relation to a John McGinn? He may have worked with my Dad once. And, while this was before my time, my family were also true Chester-ites and later I want to get something on here about Miller's Musical Bar where, my folks told me, Bill Haley started playing rock 'n roll music, interspersing it along with his C&W music, back in the late 40's and early 50's. Miller's Musical Bar was right on the corner of Morton Ave. and 9th St. I knew it slightly, as I was in there a couple of times, when I was just a tadpole of 13-14 years old, as a relative took me there once in awhile. He bought me Cokes while he had a beer. And yet Cleveland got the R&R museum - but Bill Haley started in Chester. Ergo - Rock 'n Roll started in Chester. Haley was playing this music from the beginning. Sorry, Cleveland. What we know today as "Rock 'n Roll" music started in Chester, courtesy of Mr. Bill Haley. Not to denigrate the great Chuck Berry, but Haley blended country and western music with other musical roots and perfomed them publicly for the first time - in Chester. I looked into the history of Haley and also "Lord" Jim Ferguson. My roots in Chester run VERY deep, you see. Anyone here remember Jimmy Lamb? He lived in the North End of the city. Former councilman, I believe. When I was covering Chester as a correspondent for the Daily Times, I interviewed him for some article or the other. A very nice, elderly gentleman who knew my Dad "way back when". Jimmy gave me a gift to give to my mother - a limited edition collector's plate (number 980 of 1,000 - just checked it) of the 1724 Chester Colonial Courthouse. I hung it on the wall for her and now, today, it hangs proudly on my wall. When I move, it will hang proudly on my wall again. It will be wrapped in a load of bubble wrap and it will be safe, as I have carried it with me from Terrill St. to White St. to Folsom and then to Media. And I will treasure it and carry it with me wherever I go.
I grew up in the West End. Rez c/o'82 & O'Hara c/o'86. Before getting my job in operations at Fidelity Bank, I worked at Rube's part-time from 4-8 and left about a year before they closed down, because I was hit by a car riding my bike to work. Rube's daughters Franny(nights) and Janice(mornings) worked there 'til the end. Now it is occupied by Enterprise Rent-a-Car. The neighbor on one side was Joe's junk yard and across the street was Vesuvio's and S'Bandi's Bar. The bartender from S'bandi's would get done work and take up a stool at my bar after loading the juke box with money & playing Patsy Cline over and over. Jimmy, that lived in the junk yard, would come in and growl at him until his selections of Magic Carpet Ride and Pretty Woman finally got thier turn. I left Meadow Ln in '95. Over the past year it has been very strange that while visiting my mom's side of the family(McGinn), I could stand on Harwick St. and see clear across to Buckmann Village since they leveled McCafferty Village. I drive down West 10th to see how things have changed and remember all the corner stores that were there. (Joe's which became a dentist office for his son, Sadie's which is now a church of some type, the sandwich shop at Booth St which I remember was run by Borsello that has changed so many times I can't keep up, Lesyk's which last time I checked was still there and I loved the penny candy, and Ben's in Trainer which was converted to living space). Now, I wouldn't even walk thru Highland Gardens like the days at Rez since I would be afraid of being caught in some crossfire or see something awful like the police officer that was gunned down in the street. I remember looking out our classroom window to see the progress of the Commodore Barry Bridge being built to replace the ferry which took us across river to many summer vacations in Atlantic City. My hubby says he is working on taking the city out of me, but I told him I spent too much time in Chester and South Philly so I keep bugging him about "street lights" for our driveway. He just laughs an says, "way out here?"- we are on a private road that is not even paved. I did marry a master electrician so I at least have a light to shine toward the pond in our yard and catch a glimpse of the cows across the creek! I told him that growing up I could walk the rocks of the creek between Chester and Trainer and sometimes trek up to Trainer rocks. At least I can see and hear I-95 so that helps! But I just have to remember being held up at gunpoint as I was moving my stuff out of Chester to make me happy that I am not there now. Gone are the days of having "little Ireland" between W. 10th and 12th with all my relatives close enough to lug around the Farmco Christmas kit to sell stuff for the school fundraiser and having "the Wren" arrive each year. Bye 4 now! P.S. Hi Debi Dugan, Betsy Walker Anderson, and Tom Lastowka -glad to see names I know.
Raymond Flyod Hurst was my grandfather through my dad James Flyod Hurst Sr. Raymond married Bonnie Ann Mitchelle Hurst & had 9 childern. Bonnie and kids all reside in Ok. Raymond had twin brothers named Army & Shorty ,abrother Garvin & Robert(bob), a sister.(unknown name). We believe that she is still alive & living in Ca. Garvin had lived in Ca. & Robert lived in Chacotau? ok. with his wife & kids. In the late 70's or the early 80's we lived in Ca. and at that time Stanley & Alice Hurst recieved a letter from a cusion on the Hurst side but lost contact. please E-mail me with any info. that you may have or write @303 Charlotte pl. Chelsea ok. 74016.
I love this site; I sincerely and deeply love this site and all the friends I have made here. I get some wonderful emails too from people who have visited here and I am so touched by so many of you. I can't say enough about Harvey - he's such a special person in so many ways. He's such a sentimentalist and so generous in what he shares with us.
It hurts me a lot when this site is scarred for any reason, and from the bottom of my heart, I want everyone to know that I love contributing my memories and what has been forgotten is always filled in by someone of you - always. What John Bullock has provided to us here is more precious to me than any material possession I have. As promised, I will no longer respond to any unhealthy remarks and will endeavor to make this cherished site as fun-loving and informative as I possibly can.
I don't think I have ever written anything that I mean more than what I just said. You have given me so much, and I want to return as much as I can.
2 Jim L:
Was that the same mr. Phillips that taught at Dewey? Maybe not, because I was still at Dewey in 54 and that Mr. Phillips was still teaching. I seem to remember his name being Phil Phillips. He married one of the other teachers.
I don't know if you realize how industrious that was for those times. Today we have the vehicle capability to haul total houses. I think I can remember parts of the house you built being moved by dump trucks. Not a flat bed. Then the framed walls being raised. You did not have the cranes to lift the walls off the trucks, the students did that as I recall. I stood there with my dad (I bumped school one day) and watched the first floor deck go down, then thetwo sides of the house. I think the carpenter apprentices came back the next day to raise the other two sides. Several days later my Dad and I came back and the roof joist was being set. How many of those houses did CHS build. If memory serves me well the money from the sale of the house was suppose to build another. On the rare occasions that I pass the house I remember the kids that built it and wonder if any went on to becoming builders or part of the construction trades.
Oh my gosh, my gosh, Harv - you did it again. Betty was right and I was wrong. It is called "The Little Orphan Annie" by James Whitcomb Riley. What wonderful fun reading that again. No wonder I loved it as a kid. It can be scary too for a little child to hear that poem. Oh, that was great. Harv - you priceless rascal, you. Somehow just saying "thanks" isn't enough. That is exactly the poem I have been looking for for over 50 years!! I copied it and will paste it in DOS.
(1) Thanks for the information about Albert DeSanctis. I'll look him up at reunion time.
(2) I sure hope that the few people that use this site to air differences don't spoil a "Good Thing" for the rest of us. I live in Arizona and only get back there to Chester every few years. This Chat Line is my Life Line to Chester. Let's all try hard to keep it going and and adding a little sunshine to someone elses life. There will be plenty of time for misery down the road. Don't rush it.
Thanks for responding "U W. I worked on one of those houses moving it to it's permanent location. I recall hoy cold it was. We spent more time keeping the ice iff the walkways than we did putting up the house. Tom Phillips was the shop instructo at that time Later
Obit for Pete Conway - January 14, 1903
http://thedeadballera.crosswinds.net/Obits/ConwayPetesObit.html
Orphan Annie - the poem
http://www.judyn.trest.com/OrphanAnnie.html
piditpat: you're right, it's Little Annie Rooney, sorry Betty you lose.
Bill Haley - Rock Around the Clock
http://judyoh_7.tripod.com/oldiesparty.html
Bill Haley - Candy Kisses
http://recordlady.webgcs.com/page4.htm
Hi Buck, I don't remember my oven blowing up when I lived on Pine Lane. It wouldn't surprise me, though. It was older that dirt. I do remember when I lived in Marcus Hook, I thought I was spraying oven cleaner into my oven and instead, it turned out I was using Spray Starch. I got a bucket full of hot water and my baby, who was Chuck came into the kitchen to see what I was crying about and he backed up and sat down and of course spilled my hot soapy water all over the kitchen floor. So then I had a baby to clean up, a floor to dry up and an oven that I had to scrape Spray starch off of. Happy Memories, Buck. Thanks for stirring up those memories. Give my love to Mary. Betty
Well Betty, are you saying they are two separate poems? That could be. I'm really curious. It's just one of things always in my mind, and I could never solve it. I got the impression that even though she came to the house to clean it, she also told scary stories. Maybe Florence can help, after her guests leave.
Harvey:
Thank you so much for the link to NP. My Mom was born in Sacksville and attended Sacksville school. My grandfather and other family members worked in the mill and lived in one of the mill houses. I think my Uncle Johnny worked there until the very last day. I believe both my great grandparents died in Sacksville in 1918 from the flu epidemic where hundreds died nationwide. My mother worked at the mill as a child of 15. There were overseers there.
Mom over the years made this wonderful lima bean soup which she called "Columbia" Soup she said it was named after the town. That Sacksville was once called Columbia. It may have been the mill town area called by who ever owned the mill. But finally a connection for the Columbia soup. I could not find the connection in research until now. There are still some people in my family that have vivid recollections of their time there. Now I am prompted to get their stories. Before they get lost thur death. I went there when they were demolishing the tower and got my Mom a brick.
spelling correction, "civilized", please forgive me.
pidipat...Right church, wrong pew. It goes, "Little Orphan Annie came to our house to stay to wash and dry the dishes and put them all away." I don't remember anymore..only the fact that I always wished that I had an "Orphan Annie". Have a great day.
It's about time all acted like mature adults, myself included & stop this back biting. After 68 yrs of being a proud Chesterite I find this site being abused and offensive. Pleast try to be cicilized adults & thank God you are alive & well. Just look at the abuse the USA is suffering by arrogant people and try to not emulate them. A Proud to Be From Chester & surrounding areas.
A hundred years ago when I lived in Chester, I learned a poem at school and all I can remember of it is: "Little Annie Rooney, came to our house to play, to wash all the dishes and brush the crumbs away . . .." then it ends with, "And the goblins will get you, if you don't watch out."
For many years, I have asked people, when I thought of it, if they knew that poem. One person said she had heard of it, but didn't remember it all either. Since I learned it back home, is anyone familiar with that poem?
J. Pius Barbour. Barbour, pastor of Calvary Baptist Church in Chester, Pennsylvania, from 1933 to 1974 and mentor to Martin Luther King, Jr., during the latter’s Crozer Seminary years
http://www.religion-online.org/cgi-bin/relsearchd.dll/showarticle?item_id=885
1925 Train Wreck in Marcus Hook...
http://hometown.aol.com/hermanssite/Wreck.html
Ed G.jr.and family: I am sorry to see that your father died. How fortunate that you had him with you for so many years. The wealth of history he must have given you. Chester has lost quite afew wonderful people these past few weeks. Some did not make the headlines , but this world has certainly been a better place because of them. My thoughts are with you and your entire family far and near.
Flo: I saw your post regarding Josephine and her recipe in the Chester times many years ago...in the same paper was the obit. of her neighbor directly across the street. Mr. Fedgchin. and by pure chance, I was passing through the old neighborhood where both lived (2nd & Booth) and within the last week or so the homes on the River side were torn down for development of the 95 alternative. That would have been Mr. Fedgchin's house along with others.
2 Jim Lock : Remembering the shop at CHS. I can remember when they made their first semi pre fab house and put it together over on 24th street on the triangle behind the new fast food place. Just before you turn the corner to go to Upland from Edgmont Ave. That school was far ahead of its time in those days. I did not go to CHS. moved after 8th grade graduation from Dewey but was impressed by the program that put that house together. Somewhat like Williamson Trade. But a public school...
To John, I think you need to shut the site down for a least a week and give everyone a time out.
, ,Hope you all are doing better today. I am worn out this time of day, getting ready for younger son and wife and two little girls,. My cat is all mixed up, she don't know where to hide. We bought her a gold fish and she is trying to get the net off. Harvey, do you know a place a friend of mine can go to hear western songs that Bill Haley sang.
So sorry to see Pity Pat still feels she has to attack me...I will be the better of the two & ignore her...Ignorance hates to be ignored.Last word on this is ...went back to previous months and she said the same thing about others, so that vindicates me. I will continue to visit this site so carry on "Old Chesterites".
There are photos of the Chester Opera House and the Boyd, Nickelodion, Stanley and State Theatres here. It is worthwhile downloading the viewer to see details of the photos when you use the small magnifying glass.
http://www.philadelphiabuildings.org/pab/app/view_location.cfm?LocationInfo=NULL,13208,045,1,1
Kate So that you can stop voting for yourself, please find another Cat I'm sorry I meant Chat Room to exercise your freedom of speach.Trash talk and personal attacks certainly have their place. It just doesn't happen to the oldchester site. Pattie "How To Handle A Bully"= Ignore them
In memory of the police officers who gave there lives go to the web site God'S First Police Officer.
Gosh, I'm late getting on the board today and after reading some of the comments, I guess I'm required to respond.
Kate - you are filled with hate. I detest having to direct this message to one person in particular, but that is the sad case. From your first appearance on this board less than 2 months ago, one of your first comments was directed to me - that I should find another Chat Room. An incorrect assumption on your part; this is not now, nor has it ever been a CHAT ROOM. NOR, is it a debatting forum. That was the beginning of the first "controversy" on this board. I'd been posting writings here for quite a time before you joined in. I even said "Welcome Aboard" to you. As Paul has pointed out once again, this board is for reminiscing and sharing of the old times in Chester.
Now, you have instigated another one and have tried to twist it to where I am the culprit. You again wrongfully assumed that Pidipat was Not the person who posted the Cindy Adams writing, which you thoroughly enjoyed. Why did you have to bring my name at all into your post? You don't even know me, but from the very beginning, there was something in my writing that you detested. Doesn't bother me, but it certainly is eating away at you. You've got my email - send it to me directly instead of upsetting other people.
No, I do not know nor have I ever known Kate. I do however, know a few people from my childhood on this board and when one of them posts that we should pray for all the families of the 911 halocaust, she is sincere, and she shows her christianity and loving ways in a consistent manner on this board. She is never vulgar or cheap or downright nasty.
Many of the things I write are in jest!! I enjoy writing things to hopefully get a "chuckle" out of someone or two - never directed at any one person on this board. Good grief, I can't go through even one day with some laughter for my soul.
SO, if you consider yourself a long-time resident of Chester, let's hear some remembrances from you that can be enjoyed by all and add to the meaning of this board. And, this will be my very last response to any further hateful and hurtful comments about anything I post. It's a waste of good times, which I will continue to have, right here on this board. God willing.
Yesterday was a day of remembrance, and we asked everyone to pray for all, I don't know if any one did. Don't read what you don't want to. It is time to move forward. Their are so many families affected by this, family extends to quite few members. These people will never forget this, but they will eventually learn to live with it.Please pray that this doesn't happen again. All We Need is Love. Love is All We need. I have always tried to love all, but of course the world is not perfect. To me it was perfect when I was a child, when everything was quiet and clean and friendly
Well Said Bill! Now on with the purpose of this magnificent website! "oldchesterpa"
Moved out of Chester in '89 from the first ward. What is most depressing is seeing the boarded up homes where once were beautiful homes, rows, detached, and singles. I know the boarding is to prevent window breaking and entry but it still is an eyesore. One "plus" is the "memory" of the earlier days when there were no eyesores and so much crime. But we all need to remember that Chester isn't the only city that went down the drain. It happened & still happens everywhere. The best memories are when one didn't have to lock their doors or windows and could walk the streets late at night without being robbed, mugged, carjacked or hurt. We had it good there, good memories for most of us, but as I said they are only memories.
Keep up the good work John.
John, ignore the posters who go off the track. The ones who use this board for their own agendas.
I enjoy reading contributions about the "City of Chester".
To: "Whom It May Concern"
What is wrong with some of you people on this site? You are turning a place that is meant to share memories of time gone by of a wonderful city, into a place of controversy and hate. I'm sure John is not very pleased at some of the things going on here, and may be considering putting a freeze on the site for a cooling off period. Remember, you are not required to read the post of anyone on this site. Just scroll past them and go to the next one, and lets stop all this bickering back and forth. It does not accomplish anything of interest to anyone but yourselves. It makes me wonder, if you knew one another back when, and are just sprewing the hate you had a long time ago. Grow up and quit acting like children, and allow other people to just enjoy this site.
P.S. If you care to attack me now, be my guest. But I will not respond and add to this mess.
Bill
Delaware County Heros
http://www.delcoheroes.org/heroes/index.html
History of Nether Providence by J. Mervyn Harris
http://www.delcohistory.org/nphs/index.htm
time for chill pills. make LOVE not war!!!
It's obvious the 2 posts by unknown on 3/12 at 8:39:03 & 9:12:12 AM are by the same person. Is that Arizona time? or East coast time?
Games kids must play. Have a nice day!
Kate,
Stay with the "site", You have every right, You are a delight! Keep posting every night.
It seems, one must live her dreams, Those dreams which must fester, This site is here, not for dreams It's here for Old Chester.
Don't let pushy people intimidate So stay on the boards, we love you Sweet Kate!
You are refreshing!
I said "Shimmy Like My Sitr Kate!"
Kate Find a new sitr and let us live our dreams
I HAVE BEEN READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS ON THIS SITE, AND IT HAS BECOME VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO LIGHTEN UP, THIS SITE WAS SET UP TO DISCUSS CHESTER, NOT PERSONALITIES! IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN, THEN SCROLL PAST THE COMMENTS. THE WORLD HAS SO MUCH HATRED, I DON'T LIKE READING IT HERE. MOST OF US ARE ADULTS AND IT SURPRISES ME THAT SOME ARE ACTING LIKE CHILDREN. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY, THANK GOD THAT YOU ARE ABLE TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT HAS FREEDOMS ( YES, EVEN FREEDOM OF SPEECH)
Yesterday morning Tom called for us to pray and reflect on those who were lost on 9/11. Later someone else called for diversity. What we ended up with was divisiveness. Let's try to do a little better today. Thanks!
Pity Pat, Do not quote an old Irish saying when you don't mean it & are being sarcastic...and just who are your people from back home, thought everyone had left good old Chester.....And I am not embarresed, no matter what you think...I can stand my own...Kathleen
on your side Kate
Atta Girl Kate!
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN???????
I am nobody's fool & don't know who Bobby Darling is!! You are still arrogant & deceptive & I spent more years in Chester than you did...You left befor things got started and all you know is what you read in the old papers ...you did not actually live a life in CHESTER...you sit in Arizona and think you are an expert about the City some could not wait to escape....you were here when it was not that bad, what if you would have stayed and seen the change, maybe then you would have some compassion for people who are still there..... You no what I DON"T LIKE YOUR ATTITUDE so from McV to BV GO YOU KNOW WHERe!!!!
Hey pat are you now signing on as Kate?
Thanks, & goodnight....
Well now, let's see. That is not the first time I posted something on this board anonymously. One time I was "Ghost Writer", another time I was "Moonrider" and later identified myself as such. Had I identified myself with my latest anonymous post, you apparently would not have said how much you enjoyed it. Incidently, I wasn't looking for credit, I was sharing something with my people from back home. Intelligence alone would have told you it was written by Cindy Adams - who cares who posted it? You would merely say, "no one else on this board to read, except Pidipat" (reminds me of the song, "I'll be Glad When You're Dead, You Rascal you"). I post what I feel is of interest to this board. This is not a money-making proposition for me. It is something I enjoy sharing with people from my home town, including those who criticize. I am wondering if Kate isn't somehow related to Bobby Darling? Are you Kate, darlin'?
Pity Pat would not have said a word about being the one who posted that great Cindy Adams article if it hadn't been for Kate's total distain for me (which I find interesting) and bringing up my name. Now, remember, everyone, I did not stir up controversy, I merely posted something very nice, and then ATTACKED because I said I did it. Kate's embarrassed because she looked like a fool when she found out anonymous was me. Ah, Kate, may the road rise to meet you; may the wind be always at your back; may the sun shine warm upon your face; may the rains fall soft upon your fields, and until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of his hand.
Way to go, Kate!
Albert DeSanctis lives in Brookhaven. He is a frequent customer of the Tom Jones Restaurant in Brookhaven. Saw him recently in K-Marts also in Brookhaven.
I would like to know if anyone has any information about Albert DeSanctis. I would also like to hear from or about any other Slug that was in our Vocational (Building Maint) class that graduated in 1952. Let's hear from you. PS . I'll be there for the reunion in Oct.